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    Komita

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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Komita on Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:03 pm

    Well we all know how shity our nations are. On the Kosovo thing, well its albanian if only albanians live there. I mean would Jovana like to give 1/4 or 1/3 of the parlament seats in Belgrad to Albanians, because it would be fare if they want to keep it. About the greek support for Serbia on the issue... why? Greece has allot more problems with other imigrants then with those. Plus if you don't want them.. .don't hire them, its greek foult. We can discuss the issue as much as we want fantasy wise but the political reality is clear. Only way to have real peace is to have ethnic borders, or atleast be open enough not to care for political ones.. which is the same. Why can't msot people just imagine they live in Belgium or something...

    btw why is a turk here? Isn't it born in Europe?
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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Kristi on Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:13 pm

    Komita wrote:Well we all know how shity our nations are. On the Kosovo thing, well its albanian if only albanians live there. I mean would Jovana like to give 1/4 or 1/3 of the parlament seats in Belgrad to Albanians, because it would be fare if they want to keep it. About the greek support for Serbia on the issue... why? Greece has allot more problems with other imigrants then with those. Plus if you don't want them.. .don't hire them, its greek foult. We can discuss the issue as much as we want fantasy wise but the political reality is clear. Only way to have real peace is to have ethnic borders, or atleast be open enough not to care for political ones.. which is the same. Why can't msot people just imagine they live in Belgium or something...

    btw why is a turk here? Isn't it born in Europe?

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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Watford_Street on Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:14 pm

    Racist is probably the most overused word in the world, along with genocide.

    And ethnic borders for the Balkans all the way, goodbye BiH, you won't be missed Twisted Evil

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    Post by EKV on Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:52 pm

    Watford_Street wrote:Racist is probably the most overused word in the world, along with genocide.

    And ethnic borders for the Balkans all the way, goodbye BiH, you won't be missed Twisted Evil

    when did you dream that? is that sam pal? anyways, pal just get the hell out of this topic if you have nothing smart to say Arrow Arrow Arrow king

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    Post by puntori on Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:24 pm

    EKV wrote:
    Watford_Street wrote:Racist is probably the most overused word in the world, along with genocide.

    And ethnic borders for the Balkans all the way, goodbye BiH, you won't be missed Twisted Evil

    when did you dream that? is that sam pal? anyways, pal just get the hell out of this topic if you have nothing smart to say Arrow Arrow Arrow king

    BiH is a lost cause, unlearn slavic and relearn Albanian and join your true brothers , especially sandjak assimilated albanians, it is no late yet I love you

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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by EKV on Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:31 pm

    arsimtari wrote:
    EKV wrote:
    Watford_Street wrote:Racist is probably the most overused word in the world, along with genocide.

    And ethnic borders for the Balkans all the way, goodbye BiH, you won't be missed Twisted Evil

    when did you dream that? is that sam pal? anyways, pal just get the hell out of this topic if you have nothing smart to say Arrow Arrow Arrow king

    BiH is a lost cause, unlearn slavic and relearn Albanian and join your true brothers , especially sandjak assimilated albanians, it is no late yet I love you

    yo, who says im not albanian? Suspect

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    Post by Watford_Street on Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:51 pm

    See Teuta, even Edlir, the most anti-Serb here says it's time to give BiH up. To be fair your government does have enough sense not to recognise Kosovo, but will that be enough to save you?

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    Post by puntori on Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:51 pm

    Serbs are trying to do the same in Kosovo, if in Bosnia serbs composing 1/3 of population held 49% of territory, in Kosovo they are are trying to get 20% while being 8% of total population...a really desperate move no matter how sophisticated it is. Anyway ,serb municipalities are going to fall one by one. Gracanica already set the example by pledging loyalty to official Tirana, a move which surprised even Eulex...they prefered Tirana to Pristina santa I believe serbs of Kosovo would rather be in a Greater Albania .They probably fear Pristina a lot.

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    Post by EKV on Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:28 am

    Watford_Street wrote:See Teuta, even Edlir, the most anti-Serb here says it's time to give BiH up. To be fair your government does have enough sense not to recognise Kosovo, but will that be enough to save you?

    this is the issue that should be solved by grown ups, not like fascist kiddos like yourself. Rolling Eyes cyclops
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    Post by Komita on Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:01 am

    Well the ones actualy solving it there act like kiddos, along with the population... insanity.

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    Post by Watford_Street on Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:35 pm

    EKV wrote:
    Watford_Street wrote:See Teuta, even Edlir, the most anti-Serb here says it's time to give BiH up. To be fair your government does have enough sense not to recognise Kosovo, but will that be enough to save you?

    this is the issue that should be solved by grown ups, not like fascist kiddos like yourself. Rolling Eyes cyclops

    Komita wrote:Well the ones actualy solving it there act like kiddos, along with the population... insanity.

    Yeah Teuta, I think even I could do a better job than Ahtisaari did. Did you see the letter from Italy, France, Germany, Britain and the US to Tadic recently. It was like 'how dare you not do what we say, we thought it was just a joke at first that you wouldn't let us steal your land, but now we've still only got 65 countries recognising you've really pissed us off'
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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Kristi on Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:22 pm

    Watford_Street wrote:
    EKV wrote:
    Watford_Street wrote:See Teuta, even Edlir, the most anti-Serb here says it's time to give BiH up. To be fair your government does have enough sense not to recognise Kosovo, but will that be enough to save you?

    this is the issue that should be solved by grown ups, not like fascist kiddos like yourself. Rolling Eyes cyclops

    Komita wrote:Well the ones actualy solving it there act like kiddos, along with the population... insanity.

    Yeah Teuta, I think even I could do a better job than Ahtisaari did. Did you see the letter from Italy, France, Germany, Britain and the US to Tadic recently. It was like 'how dare you not do what we say, we thought it was just a joke at first that you wouldn't let us steal your land, but now we've still only got 65 countries recognising you've really pissed us off'

    Was that letter sent even to you?Cause I think this kind of letters usually remain secret,and are not published for the worldwide public,especially when they're confidential Wink


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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Watford_Street on Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:52 pm

    Kristi wrote:
    Watford_Street wrote:
    EKV wrote:
    Watford_Street wrote:See Teuta, even Edlir, the most anti-Serb here says it's time to give BiH up. To be fair your government does have enough sense not to recognise Kosovo, but will that be enough to save you?

    this is the issue that should be solved by grown ups, not like fascist kiddos like yourself. Rolling Eyes cyclops

    Komita wrote:Well the ones actualy solving it there act like kiddos, along with the population... insanity.

    Yeah Teuta, I think even I could do a better job than Ahtisaari did. Did you see the letter from Italy, France, Germany, Britain and the US to Tadic recently. It was like 'how dare you not do what we say, we thought it was just a joke at first that you wouldn't let us steal your land, but now we've still only got 65 countries recognising you've really pissed us off'

    Was that letter sent even to you?Cause I think this kind of letters usually remain secret,and are not published for the worldwide public,especially when they're confidential Wink

    Maybe I was Boris Tadic the whole time lol. Seriously , if papers and magazines like the Guardian and the Economist are saying that's what the letter says then why wouldn't I believe them? They can't have become rabidly pro-Serb overnight.
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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Kafkasios on Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:08 am

    Komita wrote:Well we all know how shity our nations are. On the Kosovo thing, well its albanian if only albanians live there. I mean would Jovana like to give 1/4 or 1/3 of the parlament seats in Belgrad to Albanians, because it would be fare if they want to keep it. About the greek support for Serbia on the issue... why? Greece has allot more problems with other imigrants then with those. Plus if you don't want them.. .don't hire them, its greek foult. We can discuss the issue as much as we want fantasy wise but the political reality is clear. Only way to have real peace is to have ethnic borders, or atleast be open enough not to care for political ones.. which is the same. Why can't msot people just imagine they live in Belgium or something...

    btw why is a turk here? Isn't it born in Europe?
    Actually Greece mostly support (on political level) Serbia on Kossovo issue for several politic and diplomatic reasons . I don't doubt that if a greek goverment sees that will get benefits from recognising Kossovo, then our shitty politics wouldn't hesitate at all . On people's level, Greeks mostly support Serbia (in my opinion) cause Serbia does not have borders with Greece. For Balkans i think it is a good reason Razz

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    Post by puntori on Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:11 am

    It would be funny if EU asks Greece to reckognise Kosovo in turn of economical aid...
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    Post by Kafkasios on Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:16 am

    puntori wrote:
    JoVana wrote:
    Kafkasios wrote:Oh, since the title of the topic is about something new about Kossovo issue .
    Some days before, after fire exchange (and after hand-granade throwings by the side of the criminals), were arrested in Athens , by police 2 Albanians . Police searched their house and found Kalaznikofs , pistols , granades and several bulletins . There is strong belief that those Albanians (which were being arrested cause they were robbing banks) , have connections with some branch of UCK Razz .

    Typically for the shity nation. Twisted Evil

    No, greece is typical shitty country, they change Albanians' names and religion ,and by doing so they make it easer for criminals to get away with it,no documentation ,no control, if greece did a proper documentation and citizenship for albanians, Albania would have caught them inside 24 hours in case they did a crime ...as long as they have a different name in greece and a different name in Albania, you can do nothing.
    Albania opened prisons and Albanian criminals started passing the borders to Greece Smile . About the citizenship i partly agree with you but i am quite sceptical about this . I don't want in future in case there will be some future problems with Albanian populations in Greece , Greece to be obliged to keep them (at least the "vivid" ones) here . Till problems with Albanian autonomists in Balkans stop, i think it is dangerous to make albanians in Greece as an internal Greek subject, which in future could create problems in Greek lands near borders.
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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Kafkasios on Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:20 am

    puntori wrote:It would be funny if EU asks Greece to reckognise Kosovo in turn of economical aid...
    I doubt if Greece would do that . It is deeper than just a simple recognisement. If Cyprus issue won't come to an end i doubt if Greece will ever recognise Kosovo. Kosovo and occupied part of Cyprus are similar, so a potential recognisement of Kosovo by Greece would leave Greece without excuse for its position on Cyprus matters

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    Post by puntori on Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:24 am

    Kafkasios wrote:
    puntori wrote:It would be funny if EU asks Greece to reckognise Kosovo in turn of economical aid...
    I doubt if Greece would do that . It is deeper than just a simple recognisement. If Cyprus issue won't come to an end i doubt if Greece will ever recognise Kosovo. Kosovo and occupied part of Cyprus are similar, so a potential recognisement of Kosovo by Greece would leave Greece without excuse for its position on Cyprus matters

    Cyprus is a lost cause for Greece. Plus wasn't it in referendum and both parts agreed to stay divided?
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    Re: kosovo case-too boring and odd,smth new?!

    Post by Kristi on Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:28 am

    puntori wrote:It would be funny if EU asks Greece to reckognise Kosovo in turn of economical aid...

    That would be just too perfect for Albanians very happy


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    Post by Kafkasios on Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:20 pm

    puntori wrote:
    Kafkasios wrote:
    puntori wrote:It would be funny if EU asks Greece to reckognise Kosovo in turn of economical aid...
    I doubt if Greece would do that . It is deeper than just a simple recognisement. If Cyprus issue won't come to an end i doubt if Greece will ever recognise Kosovo. Kosovo and occupied part of Cyprus are similar, so a potential recognisement of Kosovo by Greece would leave Greece without excuse for its position on Cyprus matters

    Cyprus is a lost cause for Greece. Plus wasn't it in referendum and both parts agreed to stay divided?
    Still, the issue hasn't be closen , so it is not something where you can give up.
    About the referendum now, both parts didn't agree to stay just divivded. Just the Greek-Cypriot part didn't agree with the terms of the Annan's plan about the union of the island, just the turkish-cypriot part.

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